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Patch Poll: Should Gov. Corbett Award Pennsylvania Lottery Contract to British Firm?

This week, some state House Democrats voiced their opposition to Gov. Corbett's plan to award a contract to privatize the lottery to Camelot Group—with no other bidders in the running.

 

The Pennsylvania Lottery is one of the most successful and well-managed state
lotteries in the nation.

Last year, the PA Lottery had annual sales in excess of $3.2 billion and, according to House Democrats, has held administrative costs to record lows of just over 2 percent.

According to DailyFinance.com, Pennsylvania State Lottery has steered $20.6 billion to a variety of causes since it began, but its profits have primarily been funneled into an elderly benefits fund. This fund includes subsidies for transportation, tax rebates and Medicare. As of last year, about 61 percent of the annual ticket sales go to prizes, 30 percent goes to the state and the rest is for expenses. That's a higher percentage of prize return than most other states, according to DailyFinance.

But Gov. Tom Corbett plans to outsource the management of the PA Lottery to a privately owned corporation based in the United Kingdom, the Roxborough-Manayunk Patch reports.

According to a letter some Democratic state House representatives wrote to Gov. Tom Corbett this week: "Even the Camelot Group, the United Kingdom-based company slated to enter into the PMA (private management agreement), has admitted that the Lottery is profitable and well run. So our question for you is, 'Why are you trying so hard to privatize a successful government program and, in the process, hand over millions in administrative fees to a third party manager?'”

Among other concerns addressed in the letter signed by local state Reps. Tony DeLuca, Adam Ravenstahl, William Kortz, Dom Costa and others:

  • The plan is moving forward without authorization from the General Assembly.
  • The length of the proposed PMA will lock the Commonwealth into this agreement for 20 years.
  • There is only one company still interested in entering into a PMA to run the Lottery, down from the original three interested parties, leaving the Commonwealth with a single bid by a non-U.S. company, without anything to compare against their offer.
  • The proposed PMA will enable a foreign company to take over a state government program that employs hundreds of Pennsylvania citizens.

What do you think? Vote in this week's Patch Poll.

  • Should Gov. Corbett Award Pennsylvania Lottery Contract to British Firm?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • Gov. Corbett should award Camelot Group the contract to run the lottery.
        4 (3%)
    • The plan should not move forward without a vote from the General Assembly.
        10 (9%)
    • More than one bidder should be in the running before awarding the contract to Camelot Group.
        11 (10%)
    • The lottery should not be privatized.
        78 (75%)
    • No opinion.
        0 (0%)
    Total votes: 103
  • Your vote will only count once. This is not a scientific poll. View Results Vote!
Related Topics: Camelot Group, Democrats, Lottery, Lottery Contract, Lottery Privatization, Pennsylvania Lottery, Private Management Agreement, State Representatives, and Tom Corbett

Ralph Meyer

8:23 am on Sunday, December 9, 2012

What's with Corbett? The lottery is a state run thing. It probably costs less to run with the state doing it than they'd ever get by handing it over to privatization--like the State Stores. He thinks things will be cheaper if some private company into making the biggest profits they can will be running things? The man is out of his mind! I'll bet somebody dumped some money into his 'campaign fund' to get him to do this! Republican too... Bah, humbug (in accord with the time of the year!)

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bd

8:47 am on Sunday, December 9, 2012

"Probably costs less" does not cut it. Corbett is simply looking at all options. Of course, being a Republican, partisan Democrats always use this as club to beat him with. Corbett is having a hard time fixing the mess Rendell left him. his biggest mistake is not asking the Democratic Party leadership in Harrisburg to come up with alternatives. The Democrats won't because their only alternative is to keep everything as is and raise taxes.

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sieben13

5:32 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

The man is out of his mind! I'll bet somebody dumped some money into his 'campaign fund' to get him to do this! Republican too. Now you understand ????????????????

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Art Wegweiser

11:37 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

Do you really think that a sum of money has been dumped into Corbett's campaign or a promise of a great executive job when we boot him out of office? Nah, he is one of those honest and patriotic GOP people who love to screw the 98% of us who Mitt Romney so eloquently described.

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sieben13

6:21 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012

we the people need to take control and vote these numbnuts out in 2014,secondly we need to change the amount of time senators and congressman can stay in office. This indefinitely is insane, 8 years and out should be the same as the President

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sieben13

6:42 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012

Ask our AG why he they have not questioned him as to his involvement in the Sandusky case , nobody wants top talk about that.What did he know and when ???????

Stacy

8:38 am on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Corbett has been nothing but misery for PA and taking away what is working well for PA, in this case the state run lottery, is just one more example of his detrimental ways.
What a creep.

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cc

7:58 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

just as obummer has been nothing but a thorn in American's side over the last 4 years and the same people who collect their welfare benefits voted him back in.

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Jacob Pavlecic

6:49 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012

2 things cc, by your own canidate, 47% of the country gets "handouts". Obama received over 51% of the vote and you can subtract a majority of the elders who voted for Romney, so not all of his supporters are on welfare. Second, when Ed Rendell left office, PA's unemployment rate was a whole percentage point below the national rate. 2 years into Corbett's term the PA rate is HIGHER than the national average. In fact, unlike the national average, our unemployment has been going up. Bravo Mr. Corbett.

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NE12Ukid

8:21 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012

This is about Corbett and the PA lottery, too bad someone has to play "straw man".

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cc

9:26 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012

Jacob sorry that it isn't Corbett fault that unemployment is up. You can blame obama and his obummercare. Small business are laying off to get under 50 employees so they don't have to buy health care. Business are closing down because of the economy and now obummer wants to raise taxes on people who make over 250,000. This tax hike will cause more small business to close. Put the blame where it belongs on obummer not Corbett

Maria Miller

8:51 am on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Corbett should not have the power to hand over the lottery to anyone. It should have to be voted on by the people. He has been a disaster for this state!

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bd

1:15 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Maria - Ever hear of the State Legislature? They would vote on any proposal to privatize anything.

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sieben13

5:09 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Pennsylvanians got just what they deserved for allowing a repuglican to become governor of our state

Oren Spiegler

9:25 am on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Although I have grave reservations about the government promoting what is essentially a tax on the poor through lottery sales, gambling and the lottery are here to stay. If the governor and the General Assembly are convinced that private operation of the lottery can enhance profits, then a private management company should be engaged while enacting a means to protect current employees of the lottery to the greatest extent possible. Even Governor Edward "Spendell" has stated that the public should not blame Tom Corbett for his actions in office. He was elected based on promises he made to the public, promises which he has kept. Had Governor Rendell remained in office for a third term, a frightening prospect, state spending and taxes would have soared well in excess of the 10% state income tax hike enacted in 2003.

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John Linko

12:17 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

According to State Rep. Jesse White, writing in the Beaver Countian -

"In July 2011, Illinois privatized its lottery system with a company that promised to bring in between $825 million and $851 million. Unofficial figures show that the Illinois lottery brought in only $726 million for fiscal year 2012 and an arbitrator recently denied over $230 million in concessions requested by the management company. As a result, the company could owe penalties between $28 million and $36 million for under performance."

Estimates are sometimes a pipe dream. Specific performance, both in past experience and in any contract, needs to be paid attention to and enforced, such as the example cited above.

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bd

1:21 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Mr. Linko - Does the article state how much the Illinois Lottery brought in before it was privatized? What the company promised to bring in did not meet their expectations for sure. However, I wonder if it still beat out the lottery income when the state had control.

John

1:18 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

We are selling this country to foreign investors daily what's next our women and children?!!!

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N/A

9:05 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Who are your women? More importantly who is "we" and which women do they own? Amnesty International should be notified.

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Margaret French

9:26 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012

It is disgusting. I suppose you know that Kennywood is owned by a company in Spain. Just like "same old story" said below.. "Keep it in the states"

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Roger

6:46 am on Tuesday, December 11, 2012

Margaret, are you suggesting the government tell owners they can only sell to buyers from a particular location?

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cc

8:56 am on Tuesday, December 11, 2012

Since the Spanish company has taken over Kennywood, they have hired more employees than the original owners did. Which is good because a lot of the 18-24 year old that work work at Kennywood use the money to live off of over the winter months and they are paid above minimum wage and then get bonus's if they don't miss days of work. My daughters friend made enough to pay for her tuition for CCAC for the year and then spend money for the winter months. She is happy that she didn't have to take any student loans out.

Ralph Meyer

2:37 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

And what's with a foreign country's company??? Is he trying to denude the U.S. of jobs? (so he and the rest of his ilk can blame the President for their mess???) Surely if they have to privatize to make it look like they're making government smaller (republican fetish--small government is better, so dump everything) don't tell me there isn't an American company available to privatize to and preserve jobs on this side of the pond where they should be preserved by a government on this side of the Atlantic.

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Karen C

4:34 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Why isn't there another bidder?

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sieben13

5:06 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

Absolutely not, what should be done is a complete investigation of corbetts involvement in the Sandusky scandal .

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Mary Ellen MacPherson

5:51 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

If the Lottery has been deemed "successful" and well-run", why must there be a change? Privatization makes no sense unless there is a political motive here. Just as the Corbett-driven rush to charter schools has unearthed huge profits to companies with very little financial oversight of taxpayer dollars and poor academic performance standards, at the very time when he has slashed billions from Education. No wonder Pennsylvania's citizens do not trust their Governor.

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Angry Bird

6:19 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012

Here Here! The PA lottery has been designated as the best run lottery in all 50 states! Yet we have a "two faced liar" trying to screw that up after he has already screwed up our education and help for the seniors! He tried to cut mental health earlier this year; 1 out of every 90 children born in PA have some type of spectrum disorder yet he was going to cut funding until the state legislators woke up and stopped him. What I cant understand is how he cut funding to the senior "home care" wage when this is funded out of the lottery; not out of the state budget! Yet no one said a word, media, paper, or web! Let's get this "crook" out of Harrisburg! He is as guilty as all the others in this Penn State mess! Lock him up and then cut funding to the state PRISONS!

tom

6:38 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

A foreign country has no business controlling ANYTHING in the USA let alone here in PA. ANYTHING! There shouldn't even be a need for discussion on the subject.

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sieben13

8:09 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

CC you sound like a broken repuglican record,try thinking things out for yourself instead of being a PUPPET. America has come a long way considering where the President had to start. You may not want to give him credit, but its a undeniable FACT.

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cc

9:04 am on Tuesday, December 11, 2012

sieben13, it is you dumocrats that sound like broken records. I just hope the next election for House and Senate members bring more Republicans so that they can stop the destruction that obummer is doing to the United States.

sieben13

8:12 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

The lottery would be in GREAT shape if it wasn't for the political hacks that try and funnel the monies to their favorite people. What we need is a public accounting for all of the salaries that go along with running the lottery . I believe we would be in for a SURPRISE

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bd

8:32 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012

sieben - you of course must be referring to Rendell, a Democrat, who funneled truckloads to all his friends. Maybe you should also look into the fact that Rendell is a paid consultant for the company interested in administering the State lottery.

John Conley

8:28 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

I thought our leaders were supposed to try to bring jobs back to America, not outsource more of them. Gov Corbett what are you thinking?

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sieben13

8:34 pm on Sunday, December 9, 2012

A blind man can see where he is coming from. Its about self profit

bd

12:23 am on Monday, December 10, 2012

Hey, all you Republican haters and Corbett haters. I suppose it was OK in 2007 when Rendell wanted to privatize the Turnpike and give the rights to the Spanish. It was probably OK with you because Rendell is a Democrat, right? Privatization is only bad when Republicans propose it. You haters and partisan Democrats are ridiculous.
"In 2007, Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell pushed for the privatization of the Pennsylvania Turnpike as a way to raise money for the state's transportation budget.  A consortium led by Spanish company Abertis Infraestructuras and Citi Infrastructure Investors offered $12.8 billion to lease operation of the turnpike for 75 years.  As advocates educated the public and lawmakers about the risks involved with the road privatization, the future of the deal became uncertain.  The Legislature, which had the responsibility of approving the proposal, effectively killed the deal letting a deadline pass without a vote in September 2008."

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Bill

7:18 am on Monday, December 10, 2012

Bd it was not okay then, and it did not happen, quit with the divide of America. THE ELECTION IS OVER MOVE ON!

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bd

8:06 am on Monday, December 10, 2012

Ah, Bill. It actually DID happen. you cannot undo history but certainly you can ignore it if you wish. Rendell proposed privatizing the Turnpike and also proposed tolling Interstate 80. Rendell is also now a paid consultant for the firm that is interested in bidding on the State Lottery. The divide in America is real as well as evidenced by the ridiculously partisan people on this board who simply HATE anybody who is conservative, Republican or simply disagree with their hate-filled diatribes. Enjoy socialism while you can. It will end when we run out of other peoples' money to spend.

JS

8:19 am on Monday, December 10, 2012

Corbett's administration needs to look at the results of privatization in other states and cities. For example, Chicago sold off their Parking Authority a few years ago to a private company for a one-time cash influx to close a budget deficit. Today, Chicagoans are paying dearly for that. Parking rates have more than doubled and Chicago no longer has the parking revenue it once had. The money from the orignal purchase - long gone.

Privatization is about two things - quick and easy fixes for today's budget problems which will end up curtailing revenue in the future (shortsighted) and right-wing idealogy that insists the private sector is always better at running everything (just not true).

Republicans today want to introduce profit into every government service - education, liquor sales, parking, lottery. Look what it's done to our health insurance system over the years. As is the case in most of the private sector these days, a few get rich, service goes down and worker's salaries and benefits are reduced.

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Bill

8:20 am on Monday, December 10, 2012

Well bs I was unaware that pa no longer controls the turnpike but I do not know what Pennsylvania in which country or planet you are talking about but in Pennsylvania in USA the state runs the turnpike. I did not agree with rendell on this and many other things he proposed or did. Turn off fox news and get a life. Neither party is always right or wrong. The next time you drive on the roads, call the police, fire or expect your roads cleaned after a snowstorm, please curse socialism, okay

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bd

9:59 am on Monday, December 10, 2012

Bill - don't take a temper tantrum. I never said that government should play no role. I believe that the role of federal government through entitlements is way too large and would rather go back to clearly defined role of government as the founding fathers defined it in the Constitution. Entitlement programs will kill this country.

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JS

11:23 am on Monday, December 10, 2012

BD - philosphically, Republicans are normally proposing privatizing and Democrats are usually against. That's why it was no suprise that when Rendell proposed privatizing the turnpike, most Democrats I know were against it, especially since it was with a foreign company. In my experience, Democrats are much more critical of Democratic leaders and don't automatically accept what they do. Republicans usually fall in in lockstep with their elected leaders, thus we get stuff like the Iraq war.
Democrats are also usually supportive of laws to restrict corporations from shipping jobs overseas while Republicans propose tax breaks to allow them to do it. So it is no suprise that Corbett is proposing having the Chinese run our lottery.

As for the constitution, the founding fathers included this -
"The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States."

This is a pretty clearly defined role, you can't just pick and choose what parts you "want to go back to".

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Roger

11:55 am on Monday, December 10, 2012

" ... Republicans usually fall in in lockstep with their elected leaders, ...."

Can you say Tea Party? Can you say "divisions in Party over the tax rate hikes?"

Where do you get this information?

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bd

2:13 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012

JS - Your generalities of the the GOP are straight out of CNBC or Moveon.org. As for politicians falling in lockstep with their leadership, I would say the Dems are more prone to that. Obamacare, or the ACA, is a good example of the Democratic policians acting like sheep, passing a law which is still unpopular with the majority of Americans and continuing to blindly follow its' leadership on this law even though a significant piece of it was declared unconstitutional.

JS - simply put, I believe in the constitution which states that powers not given to the federal government remain with the states.

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JS

3:40 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012

#1 - I hate Obamacare - it didn't go nearly far enough. Single payer is the only thing that will work. Many, many Democrats feel the same way and express it every day. We were not happy that Obama started in the middle and basically ended up with the same plan that the Republcans had been pushing for years. Obamacare is a lame first step, but at least it's a step. Republicans want to do nothing these days.

#2 - it's MSNBC that is the liberal TV news station, not CNBC. If you weren't stuck on FOX, you'd know that and also know about point #1.

#3 - That's what I thought, you want to pick and choose what part of the constitution you want to "go back to". Thanks for making that point for me.

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cc

9:00 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012

Just think if your 70-90 year old female, obummercare won't pay for a hip replacement but you can get as much as you want in free birth control.

Bill

10:53 am on Monday, December 10, 2012

bd,
It is very easy to say cut entitlements, we would all like that. My question is what person do you deny healthcare for when they are sick, what child do you deny food for, what child or parent do you want to see live under a bridge, what mother do you say one child and the rest get nothing. There are people that do not have the abilities to function independently in society. It is a problem but no one has the answers. If you know how to cut these people out that would be terrific but if you do know the answer you are the only one.

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bd

2:02 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012

Bil - we must rein in entitlements or we go the way of Greece and the other socialist countries who can no longer afford to come up with the money to make life "fair." It definitely will not be easy. That is why Democrat politicians always shy away from doing anything about it. They would rather Republicans do the dirty work and get the blame. There is a need to have a safety net for people who cannot function mentally or physically in society. But, that should also be the responsibility of the churches and charitable groups as well and not simply be left to the taxpayers.

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Ralph Meyer

10:15 am on Tuesday, December 11, 2012

I agree, Bill. The republicans want to cut 'entitlements' so their rich owners can get richer (according to the figures, the top 1-5% of the population are the ONLY people who have gotten better off since the republican so-called 'tax breaks' (remember, Dubya got 43K a year out of his 'tax break' and his sidekick, Cheney got more than 200K! So they want the rich to keep getting richer and cut everything for everyone else. But, to properly stop the deficit requires getting the money from where it's mainly going: into the pockets of that 1-5%, while reining in some of the costs that run up the 'entitlements' though insuring that ALL people of this country get a fair deal with regard to health care, social security, workman's comp, and so forth. Any other approach is both unconscionable, and unjust. And the conservatives can cry in their tea all they want. They are simply out of it with regard to decent ethics rather than blind self-centeredness.

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Ernie

10:53 am on Tuesday, December 11, 2012

Ralph,
The fundamental error in your logic is simply that raising tax rates will NOT impact the deficit ONE BIT. Consider the FACTS and the MATH. The National Debt is the cumulative total of fiscal year budget deficits plus the carrying costs of those deficits. So, the ONLY way to reduce the current National Debt is to at least Balance the current Fiscal Year Budget (assuming the current budget includes money to retire the debt that matures that year). Raising taxes as proposed does NOT in any way, shape or form attempt to Balance the current budget. In fact, if you look at the President's latest and greatest proposal, the "Budget" includes $1.6 Trillion in deficits for the Current Fiscal Year Budget. So, not only do his proposed tax increases NOT reduce the National Debt, the Proposal increases the National Debt by $1.6 Trillion PLUS the carrying costs of the current debt not reduced.

Roger

11:57 am on Monday, December 10, 2012

For those wishing to keep the PA Lottery in state-managed operations, you are probably wanting to keep the liquor stores under state management too. Am I right?

OK, there are two major business operations. What other major business operations do you want to be state managed? Since these are both going so well, surely there must be a long list of others that should be taken out of the private sector, and moved to state-managed. Let's see your list. Keep it short, ... just the top five.

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JS

1:43 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012

No, you are wrong. There's no reason for the state to be in the liquor business. The lottery was established by the state to raise revenue. I have a problem with the lottery in general, but if we're going to use legalized gambling to raise money for the state off of the backs of the poor, then at least let the state run it, not the Chinese.

And I'm sure you're aware that no one has proposed taking existing "major business operations" and turning them over to the state. We're talking about the lottery here. Once again, it's just your paranoia talking. Tin foil is for baking, not hats.

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Roger

6:36 am on Tuesday, December 11, 2012

Still looking for your top five major business operations that would be state-managed, like the liquor industry, and the lottery ...

Anybody? This should be a slam dunk. The question is very simple.

Bill

12:41 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012

Roger,

The state stores generate about 3/4 of a billion in profits annually and the lottery generate over a billion in profits. Money we dont have to raise taxes for. State store workers spend their wages in pa and when they are sick they are not on the dole like many small business workers who have no healthcare. When the state took care of the mentally ill population there was less people living under the bridges but since for profits took over the population walk away from half way houses and wreck havoc on society. So roger add this to your list. Sorry sometimes goverenment does do good.

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Ernie

1:53 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012

LOL! It is hilarious to sit here an read Liberal Democrats supporting the Lottery!!! The MOST REGRESSIVE TAX ever imposed on the poor people in Pennsylvania EVER. ROTFLMAO!!!!!

Privatize it??? Keep it State run??? Who cares, it makes no difference at all. Just keep sucking those dollars out of the population demographic you claim to want to help with all that "free" money! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAAA

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JS

3:49 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012

Ernie - what liberal Democrats on here are supporting the lottery? A few people, including me, said we don't like the lottery because it IS a regressive tax on poor people. Others are just arguing against turning it over to a Chinese corporation. Your point is totally made up, nobody has come out and said they support it. You're dreaming, buddy. Better stick with Craigslist.

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Ernie

3:54 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012

@JS
Give me a break. I am having a conversation with Bill about the Lottery that at least makes sense, you don't. The Liberals seem to really enjoy the numbers game...the Lottery generates "1 billion in revenue each year"? OK, that means it takes $3Billion out of the Economy if the Lottery is truly paying 30% to the State coffers as stated in the artical. My point is not "totally made up" as you claim...get over yourself. And your Craigslist reference makes about as much sense as the rest of your posts.

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JS

5:07 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012

Sorry, no conversation that includes one person typing ROTFLMAO (if not typed by a 12 year old) or BWAHAHAHA..... is a conversation that makes sense.

Your point was that liberals on this thread are all about supporting the lottery. They are not. Therefore your point was made up.

I think you know what the Craigslist reference was about.

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Ernie

7:08 am on Tuesday, December 11, 2012

@JS
Is your post deflection or obfuscation? I get the two confused sometimes...

My post CLEARLY states that it makes NO DIFFERENCE if the lottery is public or privately managed, it is just a regressive tax on those who can least afford it.

And no, your Craigslist reference is still a mystery. I'm guessing it is some sort of reference to who you think I am, but my identity is no secret to many of the regular posters on this forum. But in any case, I think I am done with you. Carry on.

Bill

2:28 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012

You are so right Ernie the state invented gambling I am so glad you let us know this. Oh I forgot growing up in the burgh all the bookies around, hay wait a minute they still exist, but I guess it is better to let private enterprise handle this business since it is all cash and can be hidden so well. THREE CHEERS FOR THE ERNIE!

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Ernie

2:48 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012

Hmmmmm....I re-read my post several times, and still can't see where I stated that the state invented gambling, or anything even close to that. But hey, if you feel the need to set up some sort of ignorant strawman to knock down, you go right ahead and have a party.

At some point, you might want to actually consider addressing the point in my post that the PA Lottery is nothing more than a Regressive Tax squarely aimed at the very demographic they claim to be "helping".

Bill

3:30 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012

Ernie all walks of life play the lottery not just the poor and the elderly so I don't get your point. I seldom if ever play, but when I walk past the lottery counter at the giant eagle there are more than poor there. If the state got out of this business and gave up the billion or so or revenue and increased taxes by this same amount would gambling stop? I am not trying to knock you down but you act like the democrats were the only one that voted for the lottery and got the poor hooked on it. To suggest that only the poor play is not something that you could possibly believe and if the state did away with the lottery people would not play the numbers. I also believe that republicans want to help this same population that the LIBERALS DEMOCRATS ARE SAID TO BE HELPING.

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Ernie

3:42 pm on Monday, December 10, 2012

No doubt, a lot of different folk play the lottery, but do the research, and (just like the casinos) you will learn that a dissproportionately large population of players are people who should not be playing at all. If you really want to be depressed, stop in the Casino on a weekday at lunch. If you are under 55 years of age, you will lower the average age of the occupants. My office is near the Casino, so we use the restauarant there for lunches with various vendors that stop in, and it is a sad, sad sight to behold. My Econ prof at Duquesne said it best: "If you want to help an elderly or poor person out, hand them some money, don't buy a lottery ticket".

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Roger

6:44 am on Tuesday, December 11, 2012

The demographic for playing the lottery and casino traffic is very well identified. Ernie is exactly right on both counts. Yes, the lottery is a tax on those least able to afford the cost.

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Ernie

10:55 am on Tuesday, December 11, 2012

And sadly, we get distracted by this comical debate on whether or not to privatize the whole mess!!!! What a joke.

Bill

7:06 am on Tuesday, December 11, 2012

Oh now I understand people can decide if they want to pay a tax. I must remember this if I buy a new car. I will say "Sorry fellows I decided I don't want to pay the sales tax so just take it off". The more I read this thread the more knowledge I gain. Thanks fellows! It off to the auto dealer now.

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cc

9:07 am on Tuesday, December 11, 2012

LoL Bill and have to agree with you.

Bruce Krane

2:33 pm on Tuesday, December 11, 2012

What's up? Only one bidder and from England! Does this pass the stink test?

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cc

8:57 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012

There were 3 that were interested but only one placed a bid.

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sieben13

7:24 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012

INVESTIGATE corbett as to what he knew & what he did in the Sandusky scandal

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NE12Ukid

6:02 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012

The divide in America is real as well as evidenced by the ridiculously partisan people on this board who simply HATE anybody who is conservative-bd>>>>

how about the ridiculously hate filled partisanship shown by the Republican who try to blame everything on the Affordable Care Act?
Investigate Corbett's part in the Sandusky scandal/crimes, or are the partisan Republicans afraid of that?

NB resident

5:17 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012

Must be some kind of kick back in there for Corbett. Why else would you fix something that's not broke. If he wants to fix a system he should look into welfare or moving away from the property tax issue or funding public transit, fix something that needs fixing

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Art Wegweiser

11:24 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

Our slime sack governor wants to give away as much of the public property as possible to his buddies. I look forward to the next elections where I can help send him and the jerk Turzai to join our former creep Senator Santorum in oblivion.

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Ralph Meyer

2:25 pm on Monday, December 17, 2012

Amen to that!!! I say, If it's a republican, and you're not a gazillionaire they promise to allow to continue to screw consumers and actual producers of goods and services, I say kick 'em out. And especially religious nutcases like Santorem who wants to shove his medieval nonsense down everyone's throat despite the constitution's insistence on separation between church and state!

Chris

11:55 am on Monday, December 31, 2012

Don't most states have a law that State financed jobs must be filled by companies from that state? Like construction and roadwork? Shouldn't this fall into that same category?

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sieben13

3:24 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012

Its called OUTSOURCING for which the repuglicans are famous for. I can't wait to try and vote this IDIOT out of office,before he totally ruins Pennsylvania

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Ralph Meyer

5:35 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012

I agree sieben13! We not only need him out, but those dimbulb clots in the House in Washington who can't seem to get it through their thick skulls that this nation is made up of more than the 1% of the obscenely rich whom they keep trying to make richer while screwing the rest of us over.

sieben13

6:23 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012

cc you sound like a repuglican PUPPET, you guys repeat the same things over and over. Cant you think for yourselves ?????????

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DRW

10:12 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

who does he think he is that he doesn't have to run that by the rest of us. Corbett acts like he elected himself. so glad i didn't vote for him. He was an awful attorney general. I will b so glad when they send him to jail for the Sandusky incident. He needs to be impeached.

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sieben13

1:17 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Ask your AG what is being done about corbetts involvement in the sandusky scandal

bd

6:04 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

DRW - Maybe Corbett thinks he is Obama and just issue an Executive Order bypassing the elected Congress. If you impeach Corbett, I think we should add Obama to that.

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